The All Access Podcast

Brandon Giella: Hello and
welcome back to another episode

of the All Access Podcast Lane.

It's, it's been a while.

We, we haven't recorded
one in a minute, but, um.

Lane Kipp: guests.

Brandon Giella: Yeah.

No, I love it.

Um, but I'm excited to talk today because
we are gonna recap the 2024 annual report.

You guys have been working on this
for a really long time, um, sourcing

a lot of great information from
your portfolio partners, and now

we are presenting it to the world.

And so I'd love to hear.

The process of how this data came to be.

And then we will talk a little
bit about the structure.

Uh, and for you video watchers out there,
we have, uh, the, the report actually

pulled up so that you can see it.

Um, but if you can't see it, go
to all Access International slash

annual reports slash 2024 and
you'll be able to see it there.

Lane Kipp: Yep.

Brandon Giella: So Elaine, tell
us a little bit about how you

got a lot of this information.

You know, put this report together and
then we'll, we'll dive into the structure.

Lane Kipp: Yeah, so we, uh,
it's all a part of our process.

You know, we, we know this
is coming, this is our think.

I see it as a fiduciary responsibility to
our members to provide this information.

Um, it's, it's really for them.

And if you're not a member yet, you
know, to, to see why you should join us.

But it's our responsibility to them.

And so our, the programs in our portfolio,
we sign an MOU contract saying, Hey,

this is what we will do as funders.

This is what we require from you guys.

So they know the state is coming.

We agree upon what data we're.

Gonna be asking for,
uh, I checked with them.

I usually check with 'em halfway
through the year and go, okay, how

are these outputs coming along?

Um, we look at that together.

And so then at the end of 2024, usually
in mid-January, uh, after their teams

have already started compiling their data
and, and reviewing it internally, that's

when I start meeting with them and, uh,
reviewing it in real time with them.

And so they, the programs
provide this data.

We review it with them, and then if
we have any questions or concerns,

we meet with them or we get others
to, uh, take a look at and go, Hey,

does this look like right to you?

All of it is just trying to make
sure it's accurate and, and real.

And luckily we have strategic plans that
we can, uh, compare it to to say, Hey,

water for Good said they were gonna.

Do this by these dates.

We look at what they did in 2024.

Are they making progress towards that?

If not, why.

And um, yeah, so that's
the, that's the process.

Brandon Giella: Awesome.

Awesome.

Yeah, I love, as always, you know,
we talked a lot about, on the show

is the data and the rigor and the
analytical, you know, emphasis that

you have, uh, with your partners.

And so it's, it's really cool
to see how, you know, Hey, we

said we were gonna do this.

And what did we actually
do for the whole year?

How much money did we spend?

What was the impact of that?

So it's really cool to see
this This come together.

Lane Kipp: It is a lot
of work, you know, uh,

Brandon Giella: Yeah.

Lane Kipp: things aren't
as black as white.

Uh, black and white is, uh,
we would hope, I mean, there's

a lot of complexity to there.

There's a lot of different monitoring
evaluation processes, even fiscal

or calendar years when they measure.

Not everything's a calendar
year, uh, when they track data.

And so it's a lot of
work, but that's our job.

So we're, we're, we signed up for it.

Brandon Giella: That's awesome.

That's awesome.

Well, so the emphasis that
you had, uh, for this report

is telling a lot of stories.

Uh, and so each, uh, so the, the
report opens up with stories and

then each, uh, portfolio partner
also has, uh, stories associated

with the impact that they've made.

But you also have an emphasis on
the lives you changed this year.

So that's the, the headline on the report
is, see the lives you changed this year.

So talking to the members of the fund.

And the kind of impact that they've had
because it is their dollars at work.

And so I really love that kind of
combination where you've got this,

this story driven and analytical
nature to the report, but also

this emphasis on the members.

'cause, 'cause after all, I
mean it is the members who are,

are driving all this impact.

So it's, it's really cool to
see both of those come together.

Lane Kipp: Yeah, we really went
for a, like a Spotify wrapped.

Style this year.

Um, you know, we have a lot of
information already on our website that

organizations have, you know, put on their
annual report, but we just provide it.

Members are getting this four
times a year, quarterly reports,

they're getting it pretty live.

Um, and man, I read through a ton
of annual reports for organizations.

Again, part of my job and, uh.

It just takes forever.

I mean, there's just so much
information that I doubt, I really

doubt most donors read all of it.

I, I mean, even just starting with
the whole letter from the, the CEO

at the beginning, Brandon, I don't
know if you read those, but I, I

just start skipping those because
it just, I'm trying to get down to.

What did they actually do?

What did they do that year?

And so we, we designed this and
knowing most, a lot of our members,

uh, are millennial, gen Z, just
to be able to get the information

they wanna learn as fast they can,
and a really enjoyable experience.

So this is a very different annual report.

I mean, report is even a stretch in that
it's, uh, not a PDF, it's a webpage.

You experience it, you can do it
really quickly, and it's really.

I think I hope enjoyable.

Lots of videos, lots of stories you can
find, any information you wanna find.

Uh, you know, even just the podcast
episodes we had last year, articles

we wrote that we thought were, that
we liked, and, uh, just sharing those.

So we had a lot of fun with it.

Uh, we've gotten a lot of great feedback
from members saying they enjoy it.

So if you haven't experienced it yet, uh.

Go experience it.

We'll, we'll dive into some, some
of it today on the podcast, but,

uh, go take a look and, and just,
uh, yeah, dive into the stories.

Brandon Giella: Awesome.

Awesome.

Okay, so we open up with, see the Lives
you changed this year, and we have this

beautiful image of Moses Ello in Uganda
who's uh, uh, affiliated with Seed effect.

And this really beautiful story of,
uh, of his experience working with Seed

Effect, one of the portfolio partners.

And then we've got this line.

You were super generous this year.

And in 2024 153 members gave over
half a million dollars to the All

Access fund, $591,000 to the fund.

So talk to me a little bit about, um, the,
the numbers that you guys collated here.

So, 153 members over half a
million dollars, granting $502,000

to nine of the top PRO programs
in 14 of the most unreached and

impoverished countries in the world.

Lane Kipp: It.

It is amazing.

Yeah.

I've been just blown away by our members.

Again, we're not a
fundraising organization.

We just simply sit here do a lot
of research, do a lot of advising,

helping people give well with their
own, giving portfolios, doing this

research for them, managing the fund.

Um.

And people still gave over half a million
dollars without us really ever, uh, yeah.

Super fundraising for it.

So, and what we mean by,
when we say member, so what

does it mean to be a member?

Um, you know, really anybody
can, can give to the fund.

You can give $20 one time to
it, but a member is someone who,

you know, someone or a family.

A business or even a foundation,
uh, as we have, or like an entity

that gives at least a thousand
dollars a year and gives regularly.

So year to year, that's
what we really qualify as a

member, and we encourage that.

Uh, a is because it's up to
us how much we pull together.

Again, we're not a fundraising
org, but we're, it's member driven.

We drive these numbers, 591,000.

Um, but we also want people
to, um, to take ownership of,

of this and, and run with it.

And, and a thousand dollars a year.

I mean, we did the math and.

Any donor, any giving level can
participate at that level, but we

want people to take it seriously as
well as I'm, I often travel and I'm in

these contexts that sometimes are very
dangerous and, uh, you know, we want

people to take that seriously of, Hey,
we're, we're in this, uh, we're trying

to accomplish these big goals, and so
we want people to take it seriously.

Brandon Giella: Yeah, tell me a little
bit about the, the members that you have.

Is it, you said, I think mostly
millennial and Gen Z, but is it, um,

like what's the mix of like individuals,
maybe age ranges, maybe like.

Is it men and women?

There's obviously some like corporate
members and business partners

and things like that, but yeah,
give us a, like a quick sketch of

who all, who all's in the fund.

Lane Kipp: Yeah, we have
a, a, a wide variety.

So we, I would say as far as
head count, most of them are, uh.

Really like you and I, Brandon,
because it has been member driven.

That's where it started, was
just really friends of mine.

You know, we're in our early
thirties, have a couple kids or

you know, Christian professionals.

Uh, and that's as far as headcount.

Probably the largest majority of
members are families, young families,

Christian, young professionals.

Um, and then we have, um, you know.

Boomers, gen X families as well.

We have, uh, a few businesses.

So, uh, like I love the guys over
at Spires Engineering here in Plano.

It's a civil engineering firm.

They do a lot of fun stuff, but they,
you know, they're members of the fund.

They, uh, did a campaign in the fall
and raised a bunch of money for.

Our program with Water for Good.

And so we have corporate members like
that who do like a profit sharing style.

Um, so we're really here.

I mean, like I said, any donor, any giving
level we want to serve, uh, from even the

largest foundations out there, um, to,
Hey, I just, you know, graduated college

and I wanna start giving 90 bucks a month.

Um, we love it.

Brandon Giella: That's cool.

That's cool.

And so these members are
giving all of the world.

So you write here, we granted 500,000,
500, $2,000 to nine of the top

programs in 14 of the most unreached,
impoverished countries in the world.

So there's a map here.

There's places like Chad and Niger,
uh, South Sudan, Ethiopia, Burundi.

All the way to Pakistan,
India, Nepal, and so on.

So give us, give us a sketch of
like, um, where you guys are serving

in, in these areas with this fund.

Lane Kipp: Yeah, I was, we, we've
talked before and anybody can download

our entire portfolio evaluation and
monitoring process on our website.

I mean, we're an open source, so, uh,
even other philanthropic advisors can go

and, and use it, and we encourage them to.

But what we do when we're focused on
extreme spiritual and physical poverty,

we have metrics that define that.

And, um, tell us where the
most impoverished and the

most unreached places are.

And our philosophy is to work in the
most unreached and most impoverished

places and work backwards from there.

And so that's, the map kind of shows that.

So what's interesting is for spiritual
poverty, it mostly takes us to, you know,

south and Central Asia, Southeast Asia.

Um, and then for extreme physical
poverty, it takes you to the Sahel and

Sub-Saharan Africa, kind of East Africa.

So you can just clearly, uh,
see that that divide there.

Um, and that's where we, why
we've ended up where we are.

And you know, I get asked, Hey, do you
guys do anything in the United States?

And no.

Um, and I hope we never
do because of that.

Uh, hopefully we're never
in a spot where we have to.

Um, so.

Brandon Giella: Yep.

Yep.

Cool.

Cool.

So moving down, we've got a few stories.

So one of the headlines is you
help dads like Moses and tells a

story of where he was an alcoholic.

Used to drink and beat my wife.

He says, my life wasn't good at all, but
hearing the word of God every week during

our savings group meetings with seed
effect has greatly helped me in my family.

And so you get to watch a story,
uh, talk about Moses, that's

on the physical poverty side.

And then we also have a story
where we reach daughters like Sonya

on the spiritual poverty side.

And she says, my parents are
stuck working at the brick kilns

and couldn't afford school.

But one day, one of these teams from
Big Life started a school near us that

I could go to, and it was there that I
learned about Jesus for the first time.

So you get to hear more of her story.

Pretty amazing.

Lane Kipp: It is amazing.

Yeah.

The stories, I mean, throughout, we just
highlighted a, a couple and, you know, as

a dad with a daughter, uh, those resonated
deeply with us, you know, Brandon and, um.

So it's, yeah, that's the most fun
part about this reporter are the videos

and the stories, uh, you know, all the
numbers are there, but the, the numbers

represent, I mean, each pers each of
those numbers, I mean, could be an

incredible story if we heard it out.

Um, yep.

Brandon Giella: That's right.

Yeah, that there's a headline here.

You change the li the lives of
nearly 16,000 other people too.

You know, 15,866 people.

So every $32 you gave to help someone
out of extreme phy spiritual or

physical poverty, it's just so cool.

But yeah, to your point, like there,
those are actual people, you know,

it's not just, uh, not just a number.

Lane Kipp: Right,

Brandon Giella: So that's amazing.

And then looked into 1300 organizations.

Uh, so you guys have this really rigorous,
um, analysis process that, uh, you

look at organizations across the world.

They submit a bunch of data to you
and you start whittling those down

to the most impactful organizations.

So out of 1300 landed on just a few.

And so we've got here, pulled
up the entire portfolio.

And what's cool about this section is
it's got a, a list, like an accordion

list, if you will, of each of the
portfolio partners into which you can

click and get the all the details like
really, you know, detailed numbers about

how much money these organizations,
you know, you know, received and spent.

And then the impact that that money
had over the course of the year.

And so the top one seed effect
with physical poverty, they're

working in Uganda and South Sudan.

And granted, uh, $98,590.

And then it has a bunch of metrics
about what that accomplished over the

year, uh, as well as some stories from
individuals, which is really, really cool.

And we've got several more here.

So if we scroll down the page, we've just
got a ton on the, uh, in the portfolio,

and you can click in and see all their
stories and just the amazing impact.

It's really, really cool.

Lane Kipp: Yeah, it is.

It's um, it's phenomenal.

I mean, it's a lot of information,
so we wanted to make it to where.

People could just click in and see
exactly what they wanted to see.

So it's all there.

You can engage with it
as much as you want.

Some incredible videos, I mean, we've
got a video of a, a former jihadist

who's now a huge disciple maker and
church planter in the Middle East

who I got to meet a few months ago,
uh, in person and in the Middle East.

And, um, we've have former.

You know, a Hindu priest who are now,
uh, church planters in South Asia.

We have interviews from them.

And, um, yeah, just some, some
incredible pictures there.

But, uh, we do a lot, you know,
with the, the numbers to the top.

You know, we look into, okay,
what did these programs spend?

What were their activities?

What were their outputs, uh, this year?

Making sure they're on
track with everything.

And so a lot of, lot of time went into.

All of these paragraphs and a lot of it,
you know, is contextualization as well.

I mean, we, a lot of this is, gets pretty
technical, you know, Brandon, so it's

kind of our job to, for the everyday,
you know, if you're a account at EY in

Dallas, how do we convey this information?

A really accurate, but a
really easy to comprehend way.

And that takes a lot of time
to boil it down, uh, in a.

You know, a few sentences.

So, um, but that was the hope
here is anybody can click in and

see what they wanna see and find
the information they wanna find.

Brandon Giella: The, uh, the term that
comes to mind is progressive revelation.

You know, if you're harken back to your
theology classes in seminary, but just

that idea that, you know, this, this
information can be really overwhelming.

Um, but what's really cool is you can
click, you know, further and further into.

Um, enter the report and find all
the information that you want.

So if you drop down this one on Big
Life, for example, you can read, uh, you

get the headline, you know, of course.

But then you get the summary
paragraph of all the data and

you get a really beautiful video
and imagery and things like that.

So you can, you could spend probably
two hours, you know, reading this

report and watching all the videos
and reading all the articles and

podcasts that are associated with
it and all that kind of stuff.

So, yeah, it's really neat.

Lane Kipp: Yeah, absolutely.

It's just like a, I picture, like a
investment report, you know, you know, you

Brandon Giella: Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Lane Kipp: kinda, the brief, how, here's
how everything's doing, and then you

can go, whoa, what's going on there?

Uh, click into it and, and learn.

That's what we're going for here.

Brandon Giella: That's awesome.

That's all.

So speaking of that, like a financial
report, uh, one of the latter sections of

the report is the 2024 financial summary,
which includes every single expense

you made throughout the year, which is.

Pretty amazing.

Uh, I mean, uh, I don't know how many
you're, you're the expert in this field.

I don't know how many organizations
do that, but I think it's really

neat that you literally can like,
click in and see all of the itemized

operational expenses, financial
statements, the fiscal year form nine 90.

I mean, you just get this like
a huge volume of information.

If you really wanted to vet what
you and the team are doing at all

access, it's, it's pretty cool.

Lane Kipp: Yeah.

Well, to date, I haven't found
any reason not to do that.

Uh, you know, the, the expenses, it's
our, you know, uh, responsibility to our

sponsors of all access to do that since
they're the one paying for the bills.

So the fund can be free to the public.

Um, but we want the public.

Um, you know, they're trusting us with
a lot of these decisions and processes.

So it has to be objective
and it has to be transparent.

Um, and that's our responsibility to them.

Brandon Giella: That's great.

Lane Kipp: Yeah.

Brandon Giella: So now we've
got, uh, toward the end here is

favorite conversations last year.

So pulling forward a lot of the
podcasts that you've had with guests.

So you've got Raymond Harris, who
is the author of Enduring Wealth,

a successful businessman in DFW,
and then, uh, professor at Columbia

International University and David Kroto.

And then we've got JD Bauman, who
is, uh, working with effective

altruism for Christians and, uh, some
other organizations to talk about.

Impactful giving and things like that.

So you can check out all the different
podcasts that you've had throughout

the year, some of the most, you know,
uh, I guess, popular ones that you've

had, which are, are really cool.

Lane Kipp: Yeah, these are great
conversations and, uh, a lot of fun.

Raymond's a dear friend and has a,
uh, great perspective on just kingdom

building and using finances to do that.

I love his perspective.

Highly recommend his book Enduring
Wealth if you haven't read it.

Uh, and then our conversation with Dr.

Kroto about the tithe.

Um, rethinking the tithe.

I wrote my, uh, white paper in grad school
on this, and there was this author out

there who kept popping up as a subject
matter expert on it, and it was, uh, Dr.

Kroto.

So I was very honored, very, very
honored to have him on the podcast.

And then, uh, jd, who's a dear friend,
you know, EA for Christians, Christians

for Impact, man, effective altruism, and.

How it works in this space.

Very fascinating conversation.

Uh, love J D's perspective there.

These are just really fun,
insightful conversations, and to

be honest, a lot more entertaining,
uh, podcasts guests than I am.

Brandon Giella: That is not true.

Lane Kipp: Uh, but yeah, these were fun.

Brandon Giella: Awesome.

Uh, and then underneath that we've got the
top articles from 2024, and something I

I've wanted to ask you is the, the leading
one is the greatest adventure of all time.

And you talk about this like moonshot
speech that JFK gave back in the

sixties and, um, and how that that
kind of mission or that drive has.

Has, uh, affected you.

So tell me, just, I've never asked you
this, but I've always been curious like,

where did that come from and, and why is
this, this speech so meaningful for you?

Lane Kipp: Yeah.

Uh, well, it's always been
really inspirational to me.

So my, um, great uncle, so my
grandmother's brother, uh, went to Rice.

We, we don't know for sure, but,
uh, I remember growing up being

told that he was in the stadium.

He was there.

Uh, and then he, because of that, he
became, um, a professor at Rice for

a long time, was in astronomy or.

Uh, whatever the right word for that is.

But, uh, so I've known him about
the speech for a long time.

I've always found it very inspirational.

But in that speech he says that the, you
know, mission to the moon, the space race

is the greatest adventure of all time,
and it deserves the best of all mankind.

And I've always thought, no, he's wrong.

Um.

It as a believer, you know, making
disciples of all nations and loving

our neighbors around the world,
um, joining Jesus and redeeming

the world to God and to others.

That's the greatest mission of
all time, and it does deserve

the best of all mankind.

And, you know, we had a gathering
here in Dallas with a bunch of

members of our fund last November.

And so I just shared, uh, that.

Vision with them of, hey, we are not
just, this isn't just like a little

thing we give a little donations
to, to feel better about ourselves

or feel, I don't know, something.

But this is an incredible mission.

I mean, we're literally joining
Jesus and what he's doing and by

God's grace, he's using people like
us to be a part of what he's doing.

And so this is the greatest
adventure of all time.

And, uh, we shared a
video at that gathering.

Brandon Giella: Mm-hmm.

Lane Kipp: um, is at the
bottom of this article.

I encourage people to go.

A lot of those stories are also
in the annual report as well,

so you'll see some of those.

Um, but yeah, gets me fired
up just thinking about it.

But, uh, I just compare, I watch a
lot of those YouTube videos, like the

inspirational, I think there's, the one I
watch I love is called Space Exploration.

If you u Google it or YouTube
it, it's got like a cover of a.

A glove, um, but gets me fired up.

But I, I think about this mission we're
on, when I listen to that, not, not

the moon, not the touch, you know, some
rocking space before the Soviets, you

know, we think, um, but this mission
that we're on, so there's my, my,

uh, answer to why, why that article.

Brandon Giella: Yeah, I love that.

It makes me think of, um, you
know, so many people talk about

colonizing Mars and things like that,
and I'm just like, I don't know.

We got plenty of plenty of stuff
going on, on the earth that we

Lane Kipp: a little bit.

Yeah.

Brandon Giella: but I don't
know, maybe I'm naive.

Um, but anyway, and then,
so you've got a little, uh.

Explainer on joining the fund and,
and, uh, and why it's so key, um,

for you guys to, um, basically for
members to get involved where it's the

top programs, um, that you guys are
analyzing these data consulting, the

experts, finding the most effective
programs, and then a hundred percent

of what's raised goes to, um, to the
field in these vetted, vetted programs.

And then it's an actively
managed account, if you will.

Um, so where you monitor these
programs and report everything.

Back every 90 days.

And if you want to download the 2025
strategy to explain that, uh, in

more detail, there's a little form
there to fill out and get a download.

And that concludes the report.

Lane Kipp: Yeah, we, uh, I mean, so
anything on 2024 is pretty much in this

report, but, uh, I'm really excited about
2025 because we, uh, so Brian Grasso.

You know, who is our advising
partner over in Atlanta.

Uh, they, they help a lot with, uh, the
data behind what we do and just the,

I mean, 1300 organizations reaching
out to all of them and getting data

from them and encouraging 'em to
go through our analytical process.

So Brian helps me a lot with that.

But we sat down in January
and said, how do we make

the most.

Robust, highest level due diligence
process in this space for using charitable

dollars to accomplish this mission.

You know, ending spiritual and
physical poverty, accomplishing the

great commission, great commandment.

And, uh, like we got pretty far.

I feel like we, we uh, we built a
great process and, uh, so it's in

that PDF, anybody can go and read it.

Again, we're open source.

So even our, you know, the firms
that get paid to do this kind of

stuff for major donors take, you
know, take and use our stuff.

Um, but I feel, uh, more
confident ever in our process.

I mean, we're already
finding areas to improve.

I mean, this is a very complicated
space, a lot of nuances, but

we're, we're navigating those
and, uh, so right now we are.

Reaching out to more organizations
and, uh, even once we have looked

at before, encouraging 'em to, to go
through our analytical process this

year and say, Hey, if there's, even
if we looked at you last year, maybe

they updated programs or they have a
new program and a new place, um, to.

You know, let us look under the
hood, if you will, and, and we are,

you know, we're looking at our own
portfolio itself as we always do,

and just saying, Hey, we're loyal to
whoever can best help those in need.

And if, you know, we're going to spend
the next few months reviewing all

this and then making a decision in the
fall about updating our portfolio for.

In 2026.

So we've got a great portfolio right now.

We've got eight programs in there.

Um, but we're always looking
to grow and, uh, so we're,

we're really excited about it.

Brandon Giella: Cool, cool.

Well, is there anything else listeners
should know about this report?

What's coming in 2025?

Things you've been thinking about?

Lane Kipp: Well, 2025, I
mean, we, uh, personally.

You know, part of our process
is consulting experts.

You know, I'm looking, you
know, last year I spent a lot

of time looking into education.

The year before that, you know,
microfinance, unconditional cash

transfers, banking, you know,
a lot of the world doesn't have

access to just simple banking.

You just, even savings, like,
where do we put this money?

Where can we save this money?

Let alone get.

You know, have an opportunity to
participate in the market, invest

or even take loans for businesses.

So this year, uh, need to learn more
about education, about healthcare,

specifically health, uh, in these
spaces, nutrition, access to healthcare.

I was just looking before this
about you, the indexes out there

that measure access to healthcare.

Uh, and then continue to
grow in spiritual poverty.

You know, unreached people groups,
better ways to measure that with, um,

you know, mapping where churches are,
where they aren't, where do people

have practical access to the gospel?

So I can nerd out a while about all of
this, but, but that's where we're headed.

And, uh, I just encourage people to go
experience, and I use that word, um.

Specifically experience the annual report.

Enjoy it man.

If you're a member and you gave
with us, uh, I pray that it's a

really enjoyable and rewarding
experience for you and what you did.

I mean, you can calculate kind
of what the per person impact

that you personally made.

Um, we just had a member of our
fund pass away, uh, last week, uh,

by God's Grace at the age of 95.

And, uh, yeah, and several
of his member, uh, his family

members are members of our fund.

And so, uh, I just shot him a text,
said, Hey, just to encourage you, I just

wanna tell you what Ken accomplished,
you know, the last few years as a part

of our fund and personally planted
about, uh, I think it was 35 churches

himself as far as what he, uh, gave.

And, uh, hopefully that was
encouragement to him, but.

Uh, but yeah, enjoy the
report that's for you.

Let us know how we can improve
it, uh, what you wanna see next

year, and, uh, what you wanna see
on our quarterly reports as well.

Brandon Giella: Awesome.

Awesome.

Well, I'm so excited, uh, to dive
into this and also to dive into

what's coming this year as a member.

I'm always excited about what you
guys got cooking, so I'm really

excited about this year and, um,
looking forward to, I know you got

some stuff in the, on the back burner.

You're, you're itching to
get out into the world.

Uh, I won't reveal them now, but
anyway, I'm really excited about 2025.

I think it's gonna be gonna be awesome.

So, lane, thank you for all
your hard work and the team's

work on putting this together.

Um, I know you guys spend a ton of
time pouring through this data, you

know, adjusting and improving the
analytical rigor and working on your

partnerships and things like that, so
I know it's a ton of work and, uh, I,

I am very grateful and I know a lot
of members are as well, so thank you.

Lane Kipp: I appreciate it, Brandon.

And yeah, we're, we're here to
help, you know, advise people

when we want to help people give.

Well, so reach out, uh, to us any time
if we can help in any way towards, uh,

you know, fulfilling our own mission of,
you know, reaching the unreached and, uh,

helping our, a lot of our brothers and
sisters around the world that are in need.

So we wanna help you do that.

Brandon Giella: Amen.

Amen.

Well, my dude appreciate you and we
will see you on the next episode.

Lane Kipp: All right.

Thanks Brandon.